Dear Pastor, I wanted to comment on a statement you made when you speaking at the end of class. I am so respectful of all religions and try to get to know beliefs and understand where people are coming from in their faith especially when I am helping others or in different countries. You mentioned tonight the Jesus of other faiths and brought up Mormonism and how they believe in a "different" Jesus, a Jesus who is one of many Gods. I am "Mormon" and I thought I believed in the same Jesus everyone else does. Taken from Mormon.org site:
But what do we mean when we say He is the Savior of the world? The Redeemer? Each of these titles point to the truth that Jesus Christ is the only way by which we can return to live with our Heavenly Father. Jesus suffered and was crucified for the sins of the world, giving each of God’s children the gift of repentance and forgiveness. Only by His mercy and grace can anyone be saved. His subsequent resurrection prepared the way for every person to overcome physical death as well. These events are called the Atonement. In short, Jesus Christ saves us from sin and death. For that, he is very literally our Savior and Redeemer. In the future Jesus Christ will return to reign on earth in peace for a thousand years. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He will be our Lord forever.
Jesus IS the Son of God. Jesus lived, was born to a virgin, Mary ,was crucified, died and rose on the third day. Is that not the Jesus others believe in? I know in the Catholic church that the God head consists of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit. One God. Growing up I never understood how this could be. How can three be one.
The Nicene Creed was first adopted in A.D. 325 at the Council of Nicea. The Roman Emperor Constantine had convened the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify the Christian church with one doctrine, especially on the issues of the Trinity and the deity / humanity of Jesus Christ. The Nicene Creed reads as follows:
We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by theHoly Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us underPontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
This I have said so many times in church (born and raised Catholic) From this, to me they were separate beings. How could you sit at the right hand of the father and you are the father. It just did not make sense to me. I see Heavenly Father as a person, Jesus His Son as a person and the Holy Spirit as a spirit separate from the Father and the Son. Because I see them as separate, am I believing in more than one God? I grew up in my spirituality knowing that there was my Heavenly Father, a father who loved me as His child, Jesus his Son, who was the ultimate sacrifice for me, for my sins, and the Holy Spirit who helps me and protects me through my life. I have known these to be three separate entities my whole life no matter what church I attended. To say in the Mormon beliefs that we, they, believe in one of many gods, Jesus, a different Jesus, I do not understand. I know He is the same one you know about, who came to earth and through His ministry here, did many marvelous works. He prayed to His father. The Holy Spirit came to Him.
I guess you made me think, "what, a different Jesus?" "How can that be?" I wanted to let you know how I see my Savior and my Heavenly Father in my life. I am grateful for all that I have, for meeting you and attending the class. Thank you for reading my thoughts. Thank you for leading the class. I hope our paths will cross again.
Warmest and most sincere regards,
Laurie
But what do we mean when we say He is the Savior of the world? The Redeemer? Each of these titles point to the truth that Jesus Christ is the only way by which we can return to live with our Heavenly Father. Jesus suffered and was crucified for the sins of the world, giving each of God’s children the gift of repentance and forgiveness. Only by His mercy and grace can anyone be saved. His subsequent resurrection prepared the way for every person to overcome physical death as well. These events are called the Atonement. In short, Jesus Christ saves us from sin and death. For that, he is very literally our Savior and Redeemer. In the future Jesus Christ will return to reign on earth in peace for a thousand years. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He will be our Lord forever.
Jesus IS the Son of God. Jesus lived, was born to a virgin, Mary ,was crucified, died and rose on the third day. Is that not the Jesus others believe in? I know in the Catholic church that the God head consists of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit. One God. Growing up I never understood how this could be. How can three be one.
The Nicene Creed was first adopted in A.D. 325 at the Council of Nicea. The Roman Emperor Constantine had convened the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify the Christian church with one doctrine, especially on the issues of the Trinity and the deity / humanity of Jesus Christ. The Nicene Creed reads as follows:
We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by theHoly Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us underPontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
This I have said so many times in church (born and raised Catholic) From this, to me they were separate beings. How could you sit at the right hand of the father and you are the father. It just did not make sense to me. I see Heavenly Father as a person, Jesus His Son as a person and the Holy Spirit as a spirit separate from the Father and the Son. Because I see them as separate, am I believing in more than one God? I grew up in my spirituality knowing that there was my Heavenly Father, a father who loved me as His child, Jesus his Son, who was the ultimate sacrifice for me, for my sins, and the Holy Spirit who helps me and protects me through my life. I have known these to be three separate entities my whole life no matter what church I attended. To say in the Mormon beliefs that we, they, believe in one of many gods, Jesus, a different Jesus, I do not understand. I know He is the same one you know about, who came to earth and through His ministry here, did many marvelous works. He prayed to His father. The Holy Spirit came to Him.
I guess you made me think, "what, a different Jesus?" "How can that be?" I wanted to let you know how I see my Savior and my Heavenly Father in my life. I am grateful for all that I have, for meeting you and attending the class. Thank you for reading my thoughts. Thank you for leading the class. I hope our paths will cross again.
Warmest and most sincere regards,
Laurie
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